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Soontir Fel Citizen Posts: 9
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posted December 07, 2000 04:53 PM
  
It's said that Anakin Skywalker brings balance to the force. As Darth Vader killed the Emperor did he brought balance to the force? What do you mean? Soontir Fel IP: 62.225.248.24 |
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Talon Citizen Posts: 584
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posted December 07, 2000 05:28 PM
Vader (or Anakin) brought order and balance by killing every jedi light or dark. -Tal IP: 64.45.136.13 |
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g5 Citizen Posts: 156
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posted December 08, 2000 04:12 PM
i never quite got that if he stayed light he would have made the light side way heavier which means that the only way for him to bring balance to would be to be dark. so if he were to bring balace then they would've known that he would turn dark. and they knew he would and he was so powerful so whydidn't they kill him when they had the chance? Just some pondering for you to do ------------------ IP: 205.188.193.18 |
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Fury Citizen Posts: 202
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posted December 08, 2000 04:34 PM
Let's see, by ANH we had Palpatine and Vader on one side, Yoda and Kenobi on the other....Seems pretty balanced to me. ------------------ IP: 139.78.190.2 |
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Soontir Fel Citizen Posts: 9
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posted December 08, 2000 04:50 PM
But this is the main question. Is the force balanced when there are dark and light jedi or is the force balanced if there is no jedi? In episode 1 the balance is for me peace and freedom (of course the empire brought peace and freedom but look at it neutral). So you can say the balance is (for the light jedi) peace. IP: 212.185.249.15 |
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Talon Citizen Posts: 584
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posted December 08, 2000 06:56 PM
Fury is right. He balanced things by only leaving two Jedi that he couldn't find. In Episode 1 there are many Light Jedi and two known Dark Jedi... not too balanced there. ANH has Kenobi and Yoda vs Palpatine and Vader... balanced. ------------------ IP: 64.45.136.12 |
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Daishi Citizen Posts: 147
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posted December 09, 2000 05:05 AM
Fury has already kind of said it. We got to remember balance works both ways and since there were a lot of light side jedi's and next to no dark jedi's, well let's just say it did get balanced by the time ANH came around. ------------------ "If we have all knowladge then we would not wish to seek what we know, but if we had no knowledge how could we even ask a question?" Plato on knowladge. "There are at the least three sides or choices to any situation." Me IP: 63.15.111.14 |
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g5 Citizen Posts: 156
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posted December 09, 2000 09:22 AM
If that was how he would bring balance to the force, by killing all the light jedis(all most all) then why did the council allow him to go free? ponder that ------------------ IP: 205.188.196.2 |
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Fury Citizen Posts: 202
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posted December 09, 2000 12:11 PM
OK...look at it this way. In TPM, the dark side was in hiding - you did not know their intentions. By the time of ANH, you definitely knew what they wanted. The remaining lightsiders were in hiding, but we still knew what they wanted. This could be seen as a ploy to flush out the enemy at the expense of thousands - if not millions of lives. Also, they were working off a prophecy. The Aztecs thought Cortez was sent by a god to fulfill a prophecy. Sometimes the clergy gets the call wrong. ------------------ IP: 139.78.58.6 |
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Elwapo Citizen Posts: 11
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posted December 10, 2000 03:40 AM
well i think and this is my opinion that the ballance of the force was not ballanced towards the light side in EP1. Y would a jedi council men say "Could this be the boy that brings ballance back to the force". If he asked himself that i think they would have turned him down or even try kill him. Elwapo out. [This message has been edited by Elwapo (edited December 10, 2000).] IP: 203.57.44.13 |
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Threeof4 Citizen Posts: 137
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posted December 10, 2000 04:24 AM
I think I'm going to have to agree with Elwapo on this. They did ask if he "could" bring balance to the force. I think that they were wrong in saying that Anakin was the person that brings balance to the force, and they had him confused with his son. Luke brings balance and cancels out the darkside. But there the balance ends because the darkside is destroyed in the movies, and we don't know if it continues or not, nor will we. Granted there's the Thrawn trilogy that says there are jedi, but it was not written by Lucas. Just my thoughts on the matter. Take it or leave it. 3 IP: 128.210.251.1 |
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Agent Citizen Posts: 327
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posted December 10, 2000 09:38 PM
Generally in science fiction in situations where there are sides of good and evil (like Dragon Lance, Lord of the Rings, stuff like that) the two sides must be balanced, as in, one cannot exist without the other. Star wars is no different. I think the main reason that there has to be balance in the force is so the jedi-vs-dark jedi conflict can continue... in other words, for sequels and the like. (money!) This doesn't really relate to this topic, but it's just my take on the whole "balance" thing. ------------------ IP: 207.32.44.18 |
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Elwapo Citizen Posts: 11
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posted December 12, 2000 09:08 PM
The question is.... Y would the Jedi want to bring ballance back to the force? dont they wanna illiminate the Drak sith? and in EP1 they truly believed that they did. Maybe they are talking about, could this boy bring the dark side back to the force, thus bringing ballance back. Start of EP1 in the jedi meeting Yoda stats that the jedi havent seen the sith in a long time.. so the force is tiped to the light side.. So anikan did bring ballance to the force when he turned into Darth Vader. He did bring ballance but the he killed the emperor. But if you think about it... didnt the Emperor aalso help bring ballance to the force? he did take anikan under his wing and tought him the darkside.. Just my thoughts Elwapo out. IP: 203.57.44.22 |
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Agent Citizen Posts: 327
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posted December 12, 2000 10:20 PM
now, what i wanna know is if the light side was OBVIOUSLY ahead on the balance side, then how come they even considered anyone who would "bring balance to the force," therefore either: 1. Destroying most/all of the jedi I mean, it's like a "Damned if you do, happily ever after if you don't" type of thing. They shouldn't have even considered taking this boy to the council. (therefore both strengthening the light side's "death hold" on the galaxy and also eliminating the second-biggest flaw in the movie (flaw 1 was Jar Jar, flaw 2 was the kid they picked to play anakin)) Silly Jediz, twix are for kidz. ------------------ IP: 207.32.44.15 |
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Agent Citizen Posts: 327
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posted December 12, 2000 10:22 PM
i have no idea what that last phrase means... ------------------ IP: 207.32.44.15 |
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Gui Sun Paan Citizen Posts: 61
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posted December 13, 2000 11:27 PM
Actually I think it works like this. The prophecy that vader is supposed to fufill, does not specify how the balance occurs. Therefore, those of you who say the two and two thing are half right. The balance occurs, because Anakin Skywalker, in becoming Vader effectively destroys one light Jedi, himself. After that, the Jedi Purges kill off nearly every Jedi, except of cours for Luke and Leia, who are hidden, and Obi Wan Kenobi, and Yoda, who hide themselves. Yoda hid on Dagobah, because of the protection it gave him You'll remember his comment in TPM "Hard to see the Darkside is." The fact that he fought a Massassi warrior on Dagobah is what makes it such good protection. The planet is protected by the fact that the Darkside is still present, even though the warrior was defeated. Kenobi on the other hand, chooses to stay on Tatooine, because he feels it is his ultimate duty to redeem himself by properly training the son of his failed and fallen apprenctice. But the basic principle is that Vader brings balance by killing off all the Jedi except for Yoda, and Kenobi. The Paan Man IP: 172.143.167.14 |
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