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Spartacus
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posted November 09, 2000 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spartacus   Click Here to Email Spartacus        Reply w/Quote
World reacts: 'What happened in Florida?'
November 8, 2000
Web posted at: 9:43 p.m. EST (0243 GMT)


In China, the cliffhanger election was an opportunity for the U.S. embassy to teach residents of the People's Republic about American democracy. Among the invited students and academics, suspense was high.

Volunteers explained how the election process works, and books on American democracy were snapped up.

"I think voting for a new president every four years is a good method," said one Chinese woman. "If one leader stays in power all the time there are too many drawbacks."

The Chinese government was quick to extend congratulations when it appeared Bush had won, but privately Beijing would prefer continuity with a Gore victory, said Jia Qingguo of Peking University.


[Spart's Note: What possible connection could Al Gore have with the Communist Chinese? This reminded me of that one CNN article with the drug cartels of Columbia favoring Bush . . . darn it, neither have yet been elected and already things smell fishy ]

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posted November 09, 2000 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daishi   Click Here to Email Daishi        Reply w/Quote
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I already know the results of the election, we are screwed.

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posted November 10, 2000 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fury   Click Here to Email Fury        Reply w/Quote
I've said it about a dozen times, much of the world wants Gore to win. I don't have any examples on hand, but Europe, Asia, Latin America, and many other nation-states worldwide prefer that outcome. First, it means continuity and that reassures them. Second, they fear that Bush's lack of foreign policy skills will lead to trouble. Picking a slightly above average former general as SecState doesn't encourage them either. Third, you may be right about a link to the Chinese, but then again Gore was talking to the Chinese fringe element, not the government, so that issue is still murky. Then again, Papa Bush was a CIA chief handler with ties to the Chinese and that never seemed to be too big of an issue.

There seems to be an overwhelming amount of cynicism and hate stemming from this election. Does it even occur to people that neither candidate is the antichrist and that they really aren't too different from each other on many major policy issues? We don't personally know these guys...I would like to think they are decent people that we don't need to villify. Support maybe, oppose on a mature, factual basis perhaps, lightly poke fun of on occasion if necessary...people.

We all know this is true...I'm not preaching, just restating the obvious. Intentioned or not, this post could lead to some overheated discussion on a really insignificant issue. I've been on IRC lately and a few of us, myself included, have more or less gone off a time or two. I'd like to apologize if I went too far. Let's stop and think before we really do create a schism in the ranks. It's not worth it.

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posted November 10, 2000 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spartacus   Click Here to Email Spartacus        Reply w/Quote
Consider this post neither mocking, but merely pointing facts about each canidate (if I start a debate so be it --- its the lounge comnet anyway):

Many people wonder where Albert Gore acquired his democratic viewpoint on politics which sometimes borders on communism. It just so happens that Albert Gore was raised on the knee, and visited every month, a person called Armand Hammer. You can even view countless photographs with Albert Gore and Armand Hammer with their arms around each other during Gore's youth or a picture of Albert Gore on Armand Hammer's knee when Albert Gore is a toddler. Albert Gore often thinks of him as his uncle or godfather when making public statements on his close relationship to him. Yet most of the youthful Americans wonder, "Who is Armand Hammer and why have I never heard of him? What does this ol' geezer have to do with the two guys (Gore Busch) that are running for President?"

Armand Hammer, due to having a very strong influence in the media, was officially hailed as one of the great entrepreneurs of all time - a man who came out of retirement
at the age of fifty-nine to build the virtually bankrupt Occidental Petroleum
Corporation into one of the world's great international companies (Who co-owns the Occidental Petroleum company? Why the Busch family, of course.) The multimillionaire industrialist was also saluted as an art collector and international philanthropist, and was the recipient of countless humanitarian awards.
Noted, too, were his friendships with presidents, kings, and princes, and his self-appointed role of advisor to the leaders of the Soviet Union. He was a close friend of Lenin, enjoyed a friendship with Joseph Stalin and meanwhile still had time to visit a distant cousin who was at that time merely a small child in the vast world of politics: Albert Gore.

Armand Hammer was one of the richest men in the world and a hard-core communist if ever there was one. Have you heard of "Armand Hammer Baking Soda"? Ask your mom if she has some in the house. Take a good look at the box. Recognize the emblem of the muscular arm clutching the hammer reminiscent to the hammer and sickle of the Soviet Union? The arm and the hammer was another symbol of Communism. Armand Hammer put the Communist symbol on his products for pete's sake and he did not do it subconsciously. This, my fellow Imperial club members, is Al(bert) Gore's publicly revered idol and the individual who gave him his political viewpoint/philosphies.

Now this hard-core communist was business partners with the Busch family. Now think about that . . . "the Busch (aka Bush) family"? The supposedly "staunch conversatives" and "right wingers" of America? More like two-faced double-dealing loan-sharks. A family that is willing to publicly decry communism in all forms, yet are co-owners of countless communist businesses according to business ledgers?

We are talking about two canidates here whose ancestors hob-knobbed with communists long before Facism arose in Germany. This connection is tied in both genetically and throughout historical business ledgers before the Busch family made a small portion of their fortune in the oil fields of Saudi Arabia or the Gore family in the tobacco fields of Tennessee. George W. Bus(c)h, Jr. and his father admit polution is bad, but their oil fields, as well as refineries, keep expelling more smog into the atmosphere; Al Gore openly decries smoking cigarettes as horrible, yet he owns stock in the cigarette companies.


QUESTION: Who partially financed the official Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the United States of America?
ANSWER: The Gore dynasty.

The rest of the funding for the practices of the Soviet Union and its International Socialist parties was donated by the Rockafeller and Armand Hammer families (who are on incredibly friendly terms with the Busch family). We are talking about members of an evil order that butchered 32 million people surpassing the brutality of the Nazi Third Reich. Yet we call them, Gore and Busch, innocent or think they are harmless? My God, thirty-two million dead Russians might disagree with their professed innocence.

. . . and people keep asking me why I refuse to vote for either of them. Forgive me if I do not like evil. I will never support murderers who funded and helped regimes such as the Third Reich or, as in this case, the Communist Party.

I am sorry. My morals just will not permit it.

We should hang them like we did the Nazi party members at the Nuremberg trials for the countless people their money/influence have killed being they have committed practically the same offense.

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posted November 10, 2000 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spartacus   Click Here to Email Spartacus        Reply w/Quote
Oh, I openly do not hold anything against any fellow VE members who support Bush or Gore

So if anyone does support them and debate me on the topic, it will in no way alter my respect for them.

You could could be pyschopaths (like I am, hehe) and I would still enjoy having all of you as my friends.

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