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RA Sesswanna unregistered |
posted April 02, 1999 10:43 PM
I am just curious, how many christians are in teh Vast Empire? /me is one! ------------------ IP: 12.15.105.12 |
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Auroras! unregistered |
posted April 02, 1999 10:44 PM
as odd as it may sound I respect God and I pray to him but I don't think I would make a good christian... ------------------ IP: 63.66.170.22 |
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Ramses Viper unregistered |
posted April 03, 1999 11:43 AM
Viper is a Roman Catholic. ------------------ IP: 209.144.94.9 |
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2 LT Schnapps_2000 unregistered |
posted April 03, 1999 02:46 PM
I'm agnostic, but I'm well-read, so I get all NiksaVel's strange devil references  ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.2 |
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RA Sesswanna unregistered |
posted April 03, 1999 04:27 PM
2 so far? not too shabby ------------------ IP: 12.15.105.11 |
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Jackal Citizen Posts: 14
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posted April 11, 1999 02:02 PM
 
You know I'm w/ you Sess ! Praise be to God. Psalms 113:3 ------------------ IP: 12.15.105.11 |
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NiksaVel unregistered |
posted April 11, 1999 02:53 PM
Hmm.. I have the Catholic upbringing bu quite frankly, I ain't much of a believer... ------------------ Email: [email protected] Hail to Victory! -Vice Admiral NiksaVel IP: 161.53.2.11 |
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2 LT Schnapps_2000 unregistered |
posted April 11, 1999 03:51 PM
I'm a "believer", but what I believe in, I don't think anyone else has even heard of. ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.1 |
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Darth Haun Citizen Posts: 4
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posted April 12, 1999 09:25 AM
Interesting question Sess. I have to say I believe that Christ exists, but I do not follow it. I dislike God and hate Satan. See pure good is just to weak (what fun is it to be a goodie goodie). Pure evil is the foolish thing of all. Pure evil leads to destruction of all. Greed, selfishness, betrayal are just a minor few elements of the ignorance of pure evil. Following pure evil will be your defeate. The Darkside is the ultimate path to follow. Its embraces the most logical and plesant elements of evil. It is the smartest and most enjoyable. But when it all boils down no one knows if there is a god or afterlife. Think that just maybe the bible is a hoax created to give the lost people of the time hope and love. Or it could be another misinterpreted record of events that the early people (stupid and would believe anything) beleived. But who knows, no one. I saw on some discovery type show that the actual wrap that Jesus was entombed with was found and they gave it every type of scan known. When I saw the results I was shocked. It had to be Jesus. The crown of thorns was displayed anmd looks just like all the pictures. Like I said I was shocked. But who knows if Jesus was really the son of God. Well ive said enough to test your faith. IP: 206.62.210.8 |
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2 LT Schnapps_2000 unregistered |
posted April 12, 1999 10:36 AM
Here's my theory. The universe contains many, many different life forms, and to the higher uppers, humans are as nothing as insects are to us. And if you introduce the idea if a single, all-powerful god, then that screws everything up, because if that god is all-powerful, then it can alter reality, past present and future, so it could quite happily rewrite history all the time, meaning there is no reason to believe anything about anything. So there you have it. ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.4 |
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Ramses Viper unregistered |
posted April 12, 1999 03:40 PM
I don't want to get into a "if God exists" debate, but really, what have you got to lose by believing he does? If you say he does and you die and you find out he does exist, then you go to heaven for it. If you say he does and you die and he doesn't exist, you, ultimately lose nothing. On the other hand, if you say he doesn't exist, die, and he does, then you go to hell for all eternity. So you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by believing in God. *Taken from one of the most ingenious people the church has ever known, in a paper he wrote called "The Wager". Viper ------------------ IP: 209.144.94.4 |
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2 LT Schnapps_2000 unregistered |
posted April 12, 1999 05:29 PM
Here's what I have to lose: I can't think of a single religion that believes in a single, all-powerful deity that just requires its believers to believe in "god". They all not only require belief in a specific God, but also the worship of that God. Thank about it - if the true God turns out to be, say, Quetzalcoatal, he's not likely to take kindly to someone worshipping Yaweh. Also, why would any self-respecting god wish to be worshipped by people who followed it blindly? To be asked to dedicate your life to a mythical concept on the strength of a couple of books is ridiculous, and if I was a god ( And then we get back to Shakespeare - "above all else, to thine own self be true". You can spend your life bowing and scraping, or alternatively, you can not. And, arrogant or not, I refuse to kneel down to something that might not even exist, just on the offchance that it does, in the hope that it will do me a favour. ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.8 |
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RA Sesswanna unregistered |
posted April 12, 1999 10:18 PM
Actually to go to heaven all you have to do is ask Jesus Christ into your heart and believe that he died for you on the cross That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1 Johm 5:13 ------------------ [This message has been edited by RA Sesswanna (edited 04-12-99).] IP: 12.15.105.11 |
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NiksaVel unregistered |
posted April 13, 1999 02:32 AM
Heh... easier said then done... I'm a complete sceptical materialist. It's sometimes hard to believe in things that I see and feel. But believeing in God... I can't I can pretend to, pray a lot, go to church... but I don't see any good in it. Honestly, I believe I'm antitheist... I hope that there isn't a God, because if there is, we would all be so worthless like insects, a small game to entertain God. And we would never ever get to the Star Wars level of space travel and stuff.... we would simply all be annihhilated in the Armaggedon and then separated like sheep into heaven or hell... sux! qed ------------------ Email: [email protected] IP: 161.53.2.11 |
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2 LT Schnapps_2000 unregistered |
posted April 13, 1999 02:34 PM
Actually, Sess just made my point for me. One of my points was that you don't just need to believe in "god", you need to believe in a SPECIFIC one. And the VAST majority of beleivers believe what they do because it's what their parents believed - most Christians have never seriously considered Judaism, or Sikhism, or Taoism, or Buddhism, etc, etc. ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.7 |
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Ramses Viper unregistered |
posted April 13, 1999 04:00 PM
Oh, btw, the Jews believe in the same God as the Christians just not in Jesus Christ. And as for an unproven text, their are many documents which would prove it actually happened, the crucification of the Apostles, the names of the Sanhedrin members are all historically accurate. I can see your other points and since I'm not a foolish man I know I can't change your mind about it. Of course if you didn't believe in evolution, that would be another story(don't ask). Viper ------------------ IP: 209.144.94.11 |
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Archer unregistered |
posted April 13, 1999 05:31 PM
Judsaim was just an example, but yes, I do know that Jews also believe in Jaweh (sp) And right back to one of my origional points, if that god is indeed real and all powerful, then he/it could just alter history to make the Bible factual - as soon as you introduce an all-powerful being into the equation, the concept of what did and did not happen becomes irrelevant. PS As I'm ill, my logic may well be bizzare and meaningless ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.4 |
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Amason unregistered |
posted April 16, 1999 06:33 PM
Something else you all could think about. Everyone talks about the conflict between evolution and God creating everything. And then people talk about not being able to have faith in anything they can't see or touch. Well, in my opinion, it takes alot more faith (or whatever you call it) to believe in evolution that in God creating everything. For one, look at the stats...Darwin said some chemicals just came together one day and formed life, then we evolved. OK, well, look at the chicken and the egg. Lets say a chicken evolved, it would lay and egg, but not know how to care for it, so it would be a trial and error process, so how could the chicken survive? :-P
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2 LT Schnapps_2000 unregistered |
posted April 16, 1999 08:29 PM
In the words of my mentor, Sherlock Holmes, "it is a capital mistake to theorise in the absence of evidence. Otherwise one begins to twist facts to suit theories, rather than theories to suit facts." Or words to that effect. God ve no god is a perfect example of a situation without facts. 90% of what most people believe is extrapolation and speculation. That's why I try to believe as little as possible, and I only believe things that I get a "gut feeling" about - not what I have been told, or read in a book. That's also why I don't try to convince others about deep, theological stuff - usually, hehe ------------------ IP: 195.92.194.10 |
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